Floyd Mayweather & Victor Ortiz - sucker punches, stray dogs, and brain types
Sunday, September 18, 2011 at 10:51PM
Floyd Mayweather knocked Ortiz out last night with what many detractors call a "cheap shot". It was legal, though, and he took advantage of Ortiz being the nice guy, apologizing for his head butt, letting his guard down for a split second.
It's not the first time Mayweather has sucker-punched someone, as he did it to Gatti in their title fight quite a few years ago.
As was the case then, you hear the announcer at the end of the video say now: "It was legal!"
The thing people seem to forget is that while sure, boxing is a "sport", it's also a fight. And anyone who has ever boxed or fought MMA will tell you that if you want to win, you have to take your inner rage up a notch. It has to be controlled, but it has to be there.
Boxing is not dancing, it's not poker, it's not even football, where inflicting pain is part of used to be a big part of the game.
You're punching people in the face as hard as you possibly can, with the intent of knocking them the f*** out. Your opponent is attempting to punch you in the face as hard as he can, to knock you senseless. It's not exactly competitive ballet.
Thus, like the saying goes about 'love and war', if it's legal within the rules, eff "sportsmanship". The point is to WIN, isn't it?
Patsies like ISFP LaDainian Tomlinson focus too much on "sportsmanship" and place more emphasis on that, than on simply doing everything it takes to win within the rules.
Here's the HBO preview to the fight that gives a great look at their personalities:
Now, to brain types - I came across the HBO video above that shows a lot of behind the scenes footage from the cross-country travels and press conferences of Mayweather and Ortiz. A few things stood out to me.
1. Ortiz comes across as really soft. Por favor, no me odian, mundo Latino, per es la verdad. He's constantly talking about how he used to be a stray dog, homeless, an orphan, with no hope in the world, and now he's a rising star. Only, he doesn't speak it with anger - he speaks it like it really put a hurting on his soul, and like the wounds are still there.
2. Ortiz in NY states he has nothing bad to say about Mayweather, prefacing that with a comment about "there's a lot of love-hate stuff going on here", as though he could do without the angry talk and just hug it out instead. And as he showed in the fight, hugging and kissing Mayweather after headbutting him, that just might have been true.
3. A funny and ironic moment happens about 3 minutes into the video, where Ortiz discusses cold-cocking an opponent and dropping them, and how he laughs and finds it humorous, thinking "damn, that must have hurt". Last night he found out exactly what it feels like.
So what's his brain type?
Ortiz comes across as a Feeler. His word choices, his face and body language, his preference to love over war, his not wanting to offend anybody by saying 'fuck' in a press conference...
It could just be that he's self-conscious from his tortured past.
Or, it could be that he's a Feeler who has found an outlet for the anger that any human would have at growing up as he did, and that outlet is boxing.
He also comes across as an Extravert, more so than the king of self promotion himself (Mayweather) actually does behind the scenes. (At least in the HBO video...his Extraverted self comes out in full force with his dog Izzyballin...) So I'd call Ortiz E_F_.
As for S/N, the Latino culture is like 90% in the S camp. Ok, maybe that's a bit of hyperbole, but it sure seems that way. Ortiz doesn't do anything in this 20 minute video to suggest that he's an iNtuitive, but does a whole lot to come across as culturally S and Naturally S.
So, P or J? And from where I'm at with my assumptions, which would fit him better ESFJ or ESFP?
Athletically, ESFP would, as anybody who has followed brain types and athletics for any amount of time could probably tell you. The adaptability that P's have is far beyond that of their J counterparts in the world of fast-moving sports.
Based on the content in the video, one could say his apology for swearing could be seen as _S_J, since they tend to be more traditional and follow cultural norms.
I'd counter that an _S_J wouldn't have sworn in the first place in that situation since they'd be fully in control of their words while also completely in the moment (the press conference), but his use of it and then apology looked more like either showmanship or simply his emotions in that moment getting the best of him, for which he immediately realized his mistake, felt bad, and apologized. (In NY, anyway. He f-bombs unapologetically in LA, so maybe someone told him after NY that it was ok to do.)
I'd say he's an ESFP.
If he's going to become what everyone thinks he will, he needs to take fewer keys from Feeler Oscar De La Hoya and go more the direction of Mayweather, where sportsmanship is an afterthought because really, there's nothing classy about beating the living sh*t out of someone anyway.
And Mayweather?
ESTP who is close on the E/I, perhaps? More introverted than you'd suspect given his continual self-promotion, but much more soft-spoken than his image portrays...in certain situations when it plays well with the character. Who else was like that? Shaq.
I didn't see anything on Floyd's wiki page about much else besides boxing and domestic violence allegations, so really, there's not much to go off beyond the video, and the video at the end of this post of Floyd on a private plane with his dog (who drinks Fiji water from a glass and eats "money green" treats...definitely not a stray).
In the video he comes across as somewhat emotionless and cool-calm-collected, although he certainly showed emotion while telling an 80 year old TV commentator "you ain't sh-t!" after the fight last night. But overall he seems fairly even keel, with exception of his showmanship, which really does seem like a calculated act.
Wouldn't that seem to indicate some forward-thinking ability and analytical skills then? Perhaps, sure. But if you take Mayweather overall, looking at his full career, it doesn't seem he's so much planning for the long term as much as he's just kind of rolling with whatever strikes his fancy (see: multiple retirements with talk of other careers, losing literally millions of dollars gambling, having his dog give him "five on the black hand side" 87 times in 3 minutes, etc).
He hangs out with 50 Cent and has a dog called Izzyballin, if that says anything about his _S_P'ness. Nothing wrong with that, just saying...probably not things an INFJ is going to do.
It's tempting to assume that all great fighters are going to be "T" brain types, but I think there have been quite a number of fighters who are naturally Feelers, from Ortiz to De La Hoya to...Tyson? Probably not. :)
Mayweather, though, is certainly not a Feeler. Most Feelers wouldn't have taken the opportunity to knock their opponent out while he was apologizing...
Here's the funloving, Extraverted Mayweather with his dog Izzyballin. If you can handle all 7 minutes of poodle tricks and Floyd saying "my dog" aproximately 17,000 times, you'll have zero question that Mr Repetitive Mayweather is indeed an Extraverted _S_P type.
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